
Excerpt from interview with Shoko Nakagawa, conducted by Patrick Macias July 4, 2008 at Anime Expo in Los Angeles. This is about 1/3rd of the entire interview and the full thing will run in issue 8 of OTAKU USA magazine on sale in late August / early September.
How do you personally define the word “otaku”?
The word otaku can cover so much territory. It’s so wide…Even though I can call myself an otaku, some people might say “no, you are not otaku enough.” Sometimes I wonder what divides the line between otaku and not-otaku. For people who don’t know anything about anime, I am an otaku. But even among otaku there are many different types of otaku, like people who like anime, manga, trains, or idols. It’s hard to reduce it all to just one word. The only thing I can say about otaku for sure is that they are the people who live greedily with passion for something.
What about the word “fan” and “maniac.” You hear these words a lot in place of the word “otaku” in Japan.
“Fan” is a little lighter than “otaku”. But “maniac” seems even more hardcore than “otaku”.
Is it fair to say that your own otaku taste leans towards the retro?
Yeah, exactly. I don’t sleep at all. When I come home – which is late already – my own otaku time begins. I hold my cat, I draw manga, do cosplay, play games, watch anime, and do something on my computer all at the same time. Around dawn, I start thinking about natsukashii (nostalgic) stuff and I feel happy. I don’t really know why, but yeah, a lot of the stuff I like is from the ‘80s to the mid-‘90s or older.
Do you think it’s just nostalgia on your part, or do you think there really was something special about that era of anime?
That’s something I’ve been thinking a lot about. I wonder why I think that older otaku stuff is better than current stuff…Maybe I just got older, or maybe those works like Dragon Ball and Slayers really were better. I could probably talk about this for five hours more with you…
Many American otaku tend to be only interested in the new stuff...
I agree with you. It is the same in Japan. Otaku teenagers don’t know anything about old anime so I feel like I have to passionately inform them about the previous generation of anime and manga. But today, there’s a lot of homage to older anime in shows like Gurren Lagaan and Macross Frontier, so maybe if you start there, it’s easier for new fans to enjoy retro stuff. And when you find out about the roots of something you like, you get a certain satisfaction. So it’s another way to enjoy anime.
Another thing about your taste is that you seem to like really macho stuff…
Yeah, basically, I like macho stories about guys who injured and have to fight. My hero is Vegeta from Dragon Ball or Trunks, so that’s my favorite style. I get really excited to see any character like Trunks who has silver hair. My fantasy is to tease them and annoy them until they go crazy.
How about more typically shojo stuff?
I like the kinds of stories where a girl goes to a mysterious new world where there are lots of guys and she is the only girl, just like Fushigi Yugi. I usually fantasize that I’m really popular with them and everyone asks me out. The current example would be Ouran High School Host Club. Ouran is great because you can fantasize about many different guys about you.
It seems like the number of female otaku have really increased over the last few years both in Japan and in the US.
I feel like the Internet has something to do with that. Just speaking from my own experience, before I even acknowledged myself as an otaku, I didn’t have any female friends I could share my interests with. But eventually, using the PC, I was able to find other girls who had the same interests as me. Maybe there were always female otaku, but they only began to become visible on the Internet. Some members of my fan club are coming to my concert tomorrow, and about half of them are doing cosplay. I’m really happy to have female fans.
Don’t you think that you might have had some sort of impact on the number of female otaku?
No, I’m just one of them, but to be honest, I do get many letters that begin “because of you…” and I feel really happy to hear that. After I came out and said that I was an otaku, my life became more enjoyable. I can’t live without my hobby; it’s the source of my energy. So I feel like we are living in a time where girls can be proud to be otaku.
Do you think that recent events in Akihabara will have any significant impact on otaku culture? (On June 8, 2008, seven people died and 10 others were injured after a man hit pedestrians with a truck and then stabbed people in Akihabara)
What happened in Akiba was a very sad incident. If a criminal is found to be a fan of a particular anime, then people will bash that anime. But the crime is the person’s responsibility, not the anime. Anime is not evil. The person’s behavior was evil. One interesting phenomenon is that anime theme songs are getting higher and higher rankings on the J-pop charts, sometimes reaching the number 1 or 2 spot. So I feel like anime is very strong and powerful right now. At this current moment, Akihabara may be a place where people are scared to go, but the anime industry is still strong and people’s feeling for anime hasn’t changed. So maybe that event will not have much influence on otaku culture.
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